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I’m a Real Estate Agent specializing in Probate, and I want to help you through this difficult season.

Besides having an understanding of what you’re going through, I work with knowledgeable professionals who return calls, give their time, and help guide clients through tough issues.

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Selling Houses in San Diego County

If you don’t have an agent, or if your agent is not serving you well, we should talk. It’s my belief that no one should endure a year-long probate relationship with any professional that isn’t responsive to your needs.

What is Probate?

If your estate is valued over $184,500 in CA and you only have a Will, your Estate will go through the Probate courts. A Will is great for specifying who is involved in the estate. But, a Living Trust takes it one step further and bypasses the courts altogether, saving both time and money.

So, who is affected by Probate?

Anyone whose estate is valued at over $184,500 in CA and who does not have a Living Trust.

Probate 101, Getting Started!

At this point, I’ll be assuming that you are here because someone has passed away and that there is an estate to settle, and the estate has an interest in real property  in California. I can help you whether the estate needs to go through probate, or not (for example, if you are a Successor Trustee and just need help selling the property. My extensive experience as with contracting is invaluable when it comes to home improvement decisions.).

If there is no Living Trust and you are either heading into Probate and becoming a Personal Representative, or are in the middle of Probate, then you’ve come to the right place. You need a good agent to help you and I want to be that person for you. From a Realtor’s perspective, this is what I think you should know before committing to the process.

Skills the courts need from you:

  • Acknowledge and maintain basic organizational/mathematical abilities
  • Commitment required for specific deadlines (such as assets inventory, appraisal, etc.)
  • Sustain a consistent professional level of communication with the other heirs or entities named in the Will if they exist or present themselves.

You need this from the courts:

  • Full Authority (Limited requires additional court oversight)
  • Letters of Administration (so we can officially work together).

My Realtor Role

My role is to listen, provide options, and carry out your wishes by and keeping the process moving forward as smoothly as possible by:

  • Interviewing attorneys – to find a suitable fit for you
  • Evaluate the home’s condition and determine its market valve
  • Reaching out to my list of professional buyers for “as is” offers
  • Reviewing the offers and determining what works for you

If you’re not interested in the above, then:

  • We evaluate the repair costs
  • Explore finance options
  • Create a buzz in the neighborhood that we’re “coming soon”
  • Reach out to Realtors who have transacted in your area over the last several months and pray that some of them show up to our grand open house!

Frequently Asked Probate Questions

Who Needs a Lawyer in California?

If your estate is considered “simple” and you’re the only heir or spouse (not on title) then petitioning in pro per (“in propria persona”) meaning “Without a Lawyer”, might be best for you. Those who take this path usually plan on remaining or soon to be living in the home. But before you start filing paperwork, here are three simple mistakes I’d avoid:

  • Filing by hand. The temptation is to file your paperwork at the clerk’s office by hand. This is a huge rookie mistake. Please understand that electronically filed forms take precedence over handwritten ones, with the only exception being the actual will if one exists.
  • Missing information on forms. Attorneys tend to navigate around missing or unknown data on their forms, but if you are acting alone and submit forms with missing or inaccurate placement of information, the file becomes a lower priority to the courts.
  • Mortgage or Bank issues? Don’t wait to become the Personal Representative if the property is in distress, consider filing as a Special Administrator and cut straight to the front of the line.

Are all Lawyers the Same?

Yes and no. Any CA Bar lawyer can legally take your probate case. They can all interpret the forms, provide basic insight, and file, but that’s about it. You should consider that in any type of law practiced there is an ebb and flow to the work. Familiarity with your specific type of loss and challenges on the horizon are understood differently by probate attorneys. You shouldn’t ever have to worry about getting re-prioritized and referred out because suddenly you don’t fit their revenue model. In the industry this is referred to as practicing door law. I’m sure you don’t have the time or patience to experience this.

So, what can you do if you’re not getting the results that you are looking for? Simply talk to another firm, hear what they have to say, and decide on what you need. I’ll help you figure this out if you want me to.

Estate Planners v. Litigation Estate Planners

If no family drama exists, then both attorneys are essentially the same. However, if a will or its codicil has recently been updated, modified, or amended and/or certain family members have been omitted from receiving an end of life distribution and there is even a chance the validity of the latest will is called into question (has a defect), then you may want to consider the possibility of opposition. This is where roughly one year of probate can turn into two or more. Therefore, if the will is seriously challenged, a San Diego based litigator may be just the right professional to hire if it all goes to trial. They are more familiar with our three probate judges here in San Diego, which could increase your odds of winning, especially if the opposing counsel is from out of town.

Attorney Fixed Fees & Costs

I think it’s important to distinguish between “fixed fees” and “costs” when it comes to attorneys, their duties and responsibilities, so you know what to expect. For the sake of simplicity, the fixed fee is determined by a CA statute which is based on the assessed gross value of the *real property (even if a mortgage exists on the home). Essentially, this ensures that you get the basic level of legal representation for the duration of the probate. The state assumes that there will be no significant interruptions in the probate process, meaning that all parties agree the will is fair and valid.

The Fee Schedule

The State of California established a basic fixed probate fee schedule that can be found in the Probate code [10810 – 10814]. Again, this demonstrates how an attorney calculates their fixed fee based on the property value (similar to my Realtor fee).
– 4% of the first $100,000;
– 3% of the next $100,000;
– 2% of the next $800,000;
– 1% of the next $9 million.

Now let’s look at some “cost factors” paid for by the estate.

Costs are:

-Filing fees and photocopies
-Support fees such as accountants, appraisers, skip tracers, publishers, bonds, etc.
-Extraordinary work by the attorney
-Time spent overseeing professionals and checking their work if required. The attorneys I work with will not charge you when they talk to me about your case.
-Litigation – defense against disgruntled family members, or entities who were not included, or omitted, from the latest will or codicil.

Is it too late to create a Living Trust?

As long as:

  • You’re of sound mind
  • Can sign your name
  • Afford to pay (average cost is about $3,500 USD)

… you can create a Living Trust. This typically avoids probate.

Big picture Probate costs?

There are usually three main players in Probate:

  1. You, the Personal Representative of the estate
  2. Probate Attorney
  3. Real Estate Agent

For the sake of easy math, they each could earn about 15-25K for their work.

So, what should you expect?

  1. It takes about a year to settle the case
  2. Legal representation costs are regulated by the state
  3. The benefit of working with the attorneys I collaborate with is peace of mind. Essentially, your problems now become their problems.
  4. I’ll help refer you to other key people as your agent
  5. These expenses usually come directly out of the estate after I sell the home.

What if there are creditors involved?

If there are credit settlements needed, you or the attorney can you negotiate with the estate’s creditors, especially if you have a finite amount of cash to work with. In fact, this might be a good time to consider offering a “lump sum settlement” for those willing to accept it. For example, credit cards, mechanic liens, and personal loans are generally negotiated around fifty cents on the dollar because they are typically last in line to get paid. Other debts that have been co-signed (and cosigners are still living) are a little more work, such as certain types of student loans, or older medical bills, but before you consider negotiating these entities, it’s important to fully know your rights and responsibilities beforehand.

Where should I publish my Legal Notice?

You can publish the Legal Notice in any legal newspaper. With that said, the owners and editors of the Uptown SD Examiner, Kevin and Tauyna Specht, function as a legal publisher who will directly notify your list of heirs, entities, creditors, etc. They will put those involved on notice that a plan of action is now taking place with the decedent’s estate. In addition to that, a public advertisement is published three times in their newspaper with the shortest possible timelines. Once these timelines are met Kevin will provide you with an affidavit to sign and then e-file it directly to the Clerk’s office as part of the service. Kevin charges less than half of what the Union Tribune and operates a small business.

Are Title reports necessary?

A title report should be ordered as early as possible if you’re selling, refinancing, or transferring real property. The last thing you’ll ever want to discover and deal with is a clouded or defective title somewhere in the escrow process. For example, there could be an IRS lien on the property for back taxes, unpaid child support, or even a disputed boundary with a neighbor. None of these issues should ever be a surprise when this due diligence is performed. Kim Wilburn of Orange Coast Title does a spectacular job when it comes to full title reports and specializes in all things probate.

How does a Probate Referee help you?

What do referees normally look at?

  1. Real property 

  2. Personal property (like a car, boat, RV or manufactured home).

    1. The cost to do this is 1/10 of 1% (.001%) of the market value of the home and anything else that may need an appraisal.

    2. You have 120 days from “letters” to file the completed appraisal. Don’t make the rookie mistake of scheduling your appointed referee on day 110 and expect miracles. 

    3. But, if you have a good reason why you need an extension, such as discovering more assets, your attorney can then file a partial DE-160 and request more time. 

    4. The Probate Referee does not need to appraise anything that has designated beneficiaries

      1. Joint Tenancy in Real estate

      2. Cash, Currency, Bank Accounts, Life Insurance

Mortgage default timelines

If you’ve inherited mortgage issues, such as creditors, and liens, you’re not alone. This may seem like a great time to reach out to those institutions and negotiate, but before you can you must have the courts “Letters of Administration” in hand for the estate’s funds to be released. There is, however, an emergency way around this called a “Special Administrator”. You can get results in days not weeks if the estate is in dire straits. But in the meantime, the info below may be helpful as a quick guide to determine roughly what category of late the estate is actually in.

For example, if the bank is sending the estate past-due notices, it may contain language like this:

In Default – missing a few payments
Notice of Default – missing four or five payments
Notice of Trustee Sale – missing six or more payments
Foreclosure – 176- 200 days in California roughly from the first late due date

What are my mortgage options?

If the mortgage is behind and you need to take immediate action, and if you have Letters from the Court:

  1. Contact the bank, let them know you are the PR of the estate, you have Letters, and would deliver that document (and anything else required) to a branch office.

  2. Then ask them how you can request a “deferred action”, or a “voluntary postponement” because you need to consolidate assets so you can bring the loan current.

  1. In many cases, the next step is a “Bridge Loan” to bring the mortgage current,  set some aside for home repairs, other expenses, etc. You can work on this with the bank or I can connect you with a mortgage broker in our office.

  1. Follow up with the bank to remove the foreclosure notice from the County Assessor’s Office and its related verbiage all over the internet for every buyer to see.

If you do not have Letters from the Court, and you cannot wait 4-6 weeks, you may need to hire a probate attorney and ask them to file a “Letters of Special Administration” on your behalf so you can gain access to the estate’s financial accounts, and begin the process to bring the distressed loan current.

Other less attractive options are:

1. You could borrow against your own home, bring the default loan current, get Letters, sell the property and pay yourself back.

2. Sometimes it’s best to do nothing… if the estate is facing a non-judicial foreclosure and the mortgage owed is greater than the current home value. Then on paper it might make sense to walk away, but you will definitely want to consult with a bankruptcy law specialist before you give up.

How Can I Help?

Besides having an understanding of what you’re going through and being able to sell the home, I work with knowledgeable professionals who return calls, give their time, and help guide clients through tough issues. And like you, I have no patience for non-collaborative professionals who sit on time-sensitive information and complain when I push to get things done. Therefore, I work with trusted people so you can trust me.

So, what groups of people do I surround myself with? Here is a short list:

  • CPAs
  • Financial Planners
  • Attorneys
  • Brokers
  • Investors
  • Lenders
  • Escrow Officers
  • Title Insurance Representatives
  • Contractors
  • Home/Termite Inspectors

You name it, they’re probably on my list. In conclusion, my field depends on good people who do what they say, and do their jobs well. Yes, I miss the good old days, but great people are still out there. I’m just fortunate enough to work with a few of them.

My personal Probate story

Years ago a neighbor (and friend) in his 40’s was suffering from mental health issues that ultimately spiraled out of control one night when he walked into the wrong house…thinking it was his place. Law enforcement confronted him soon after and this led to him being tasered. His heart stopped and CPR didn’t save him.
As terrible as that was, it gets even worse.

Because there was no Will, no Living Trust, and estrangement between family members, there was no clear direction as to who had the legal power to decide what happens next. Here’s what it looked like in a nutshell:

  • You had squatters living in the house,
  • Extensive interior damages, we later found out,
  • Neighbors were miss-directing community information for the hopes of securing a good deal.

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Eventually, his step brother hired an attorney and the courts named him as the Personal Representative who then cleared everything up… but it took awhile.

This is where I couldn’t help but think just how many people out there are probably going through something similar and how I want to help them. I’m grateful that I understand this stuff and that I really do have the heart for helping people. I will help you as you’re going through this difficult time having lost a loved one, and dealing with the practicalities of the things that still need to get done, such as the sale of a home through probate. I hope that you have found some helpful nuggets on my page, whether you are facing probate head on, or still have time to do something to avoid it, for yourself or a loved one. I would love to help you, wherever you find yourself in this process.

Frequently Asked Questions

Ok Eric, are you a lawyer or a realtor?

I sell real estate and work well with other professionals like lawyers, CPAs, financial planners, and other Realtors.

Why did you post so much Probate information if you sell houses?

If I can help jump start your Probate process like a pro then perhaps you’ll consider trusting me with other tasks like selling the home.

How much are you going to charge me if I call you?

It’s just a call, it’s free.

How do you make money if you don’t charge for your time?

I do. I earn my money from the sale of your home if you hire me to do that.

What do you consult on?

Given my extensive construction experience, I’ll meet a contractor or a specialist on-site to go over bids or reports.

What if I don’t have home improvement money to spend on the house?

That’s alright, I’ll find a professional buyer who wants it as is, or look at a bridge loan for home improvements

I hired someone and it feels like nothing is really happening. What should I do now?

You’re the boss. Pay them for their work to date and hire someone else.

Probate Timeline

  • Fill out as much of the DE-111 form the best you can
  • Highlight the areas of concern
  • Bring the file one of my referred attorney’s offices
  • Court hearing date is set by the Court
  • You must publish Notice of Court Hearing Date in a legal newspaper (form DE 120; I recommend the Uptown SD Examiner)
  • Appear in Court on dearing date (usually you have the option of appearing in person or online)
  • Letters of Administration issued
  • Order for Probate Duties and responsibilities assigned to you (PR)
  • You might need to purchase a Bond (if the judge requires it)
  • Full Authority*

*Full authority tells me that we can move forward with the listing agreement so I can officially sell the home.

Next, a 15-day notice of proposed action is sent to the heirs by the attorney, letting those involved know how I’m proceeding. Example: what is the listing price, do we have any offers, does anyone involved object, etc. Therefore, after 15 days time period is up (from the date they received the notice) the home could potentially close escrow. Once I complete the transaction, the proceeds go directly into the Estate’s bank account and are distributed when the case is closed.

(within 90 days of Letters)

You’ll send documents to the:

  • Franchise Tax Board
  • Department of Health Care Services
  • Victims Compensation Board

(within 120 days of Letters)

  • Gather assets
  • Notice to creditors
  • Accepting/rejecting creditors’ claims (attorneys can really help here)
  • File inventory/appraisal form

File Taxes (CPAs, accountants, and some bookkeepers can really help navigate the following to save you time and money)

  • Proposition 58, keeping your parents’ original tax base
  • Proposition 193, property tax relief up to 1 million
  • IRS form 706

Petition for final distribution (accounting) is filed

Court hearing date

The Probate Judge reviews the file and determines if the Law has been followed and no other issues are known to exist.

  • Case closed (the courts are satisfied with the evidence provided).
  • Ex Parte Petition for Discharge (meaning, I no longer provide notice to anyone but the courts).
  • Receipt for Distribution (those involved received exactly what the courts agreed on).

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I work with knowledgeable professionals who return calls, give their time, and help guide clients through tough issues.

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Eric Bateman
Lic. DRE #01977143 & C-15 #1099705

Eagle Nest Realty & Mortgage Inc.
4167 Avenida de la Plata, Ste #104
Oceanside CA, 92056